1 00:00:05,390 --> 00:00:02,240 It was a nocturnal approach 2 00:00:07,870 --> 00:00:05,400 between 11 11 and 30 at night at the 3 00:00:10,730 --> 00:00:07,880 Lima airport where we 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:10,740 found where we were at an altitude of 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:15,290 5,000 feet, approaching the quiet 6 00:00:20,380 --> 00:00:17,690 in a procedure called 'el and 7 00:00:24,010 --> 00:00:20,390 ls towards the runway in the 8 00:00:26,790 --> 00:00:24,020 weather conditions were very clear and 9 00:00:30,300 --> 00:00:26,800 totally clean and suddenly we could see 10 00:00:35,780 --> 00:00:32,880 to our right side more or less 11 00:00:39,090 --> 00:00:35,790 on the south west side 12 00:00:41,220 --> 00:00:39,100 at the same height as us and 13 00:00:43,470 --> 00:00:41,230 worried if there was any 14 00:00:44,450 --> 00:00:43,480 additional traffic approaching the 15 00:00:47,119 --> 00:00:44,460 same airport 16 00:00:51,060 --> 00:00:47,129 we asked the air traffic control 17 00:00:52,799 --> 00:00:51,070 whether or not they had another plane 18 00:00:53,540 --> 00:00:52,809 also approaching the same 19 00:00:56,460 --> 00:00:53,550 airport 20 00:00:59,250 --> 00:00:56,470 confirmed that there was no other 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:00:59,260 plane, only ours, we 22 00:01:04,710 --> 00:01:01,570 told them that we had 23 00:01:07,310 --> 00:01:04,720 an object or traffic in sight as we call it 24 00:01:09,860 --> 00:01:07,320 aeronautically 25 00:01:12,340 --> 00:01:09,870 at a distance after a few five 26 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:12,350 miles of a 27 00:01:18,430 --> 00:01:15,690 brilliant yellow color but that 28 00:01:22,170 --> 00:01:18,440 the color could be identified 29 00:01:25,900 --> 00:01:22,180 more or less from a very weak mist we 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:25,910 were able to give the shape of the object in that it 31 00:01:33,100 --> 00:01:30,290 was an oval type, not with 32 00:01:36,550 --> 00:01:33,110 specific oval lines but with 33 00:01:39,190 --> 00:01:36,560 features that gave this shape and that We 34 00:01:42,790 --> 00:01:39,200 could distinguish between an airplane and 35 00:01:46,110 --> 00:01:42,800 something that is not a flat number. We are 36 00:01:49,540 --> 00:01:46,120 well acquainted. No, I have 37 00:01:52,510 --> 00:01:49,550 flown 15,000 hours of flight for 32 years, 38 00:01:56,470 --> 00:01:52,520 and we reported to the 39 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:56,480 control tower who had us on the radar on 40 00:02:01,030 --> 00:01:58,730 the approach to confirm if 41 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:01,040 We had another plane approaching us capable 42 00:02:08,020 --> 00:02:04,370 of being able to take precautions 43 00:02:11,010 --> 00:02:08,030 on the approach and we went. 44 00:02:14,050 --> 00:02:11,020 The operator was emphatic that there was no other 45 00:02:16,540 --> 00:02:14,060 traffic approaching us 46 00:02:20,559 --> 00:02:16,550 either on the departure or on the approach if 47 00:02:23,710 --> 00:02:20,569 I can say that it was different and unique in 48 00:02:25,750 --> 00:02:23,720 space because we also had the 49 00:02:27,630 --> 00:02:25,760 caution because it was very visible and for 50 00:02:32,190 --> 00:02:27,640 a long time 51 00:02:34,860 --> 00:02:32,200 to differentiate between certain boats or ships 52 00:02:39,910 --> 00:02:34,870 perched there at 53 00:02:42,610 --> 00:02:39,920 the mooring in the quiet he specified that 54 00:02:44,620 --> 00:02:42,620 they have another type of light of course they are not 55 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:44,630 navigation or identification lights 56 00:02:49,930 --> 00:02:48,410 used by ships, yachts and 57 00:02:52,270 --> 00:02:49,940 ship forests The next day, 58 00:02:53,979 --> 00:02:52,280 actually, we had not discussed with 59 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:53,989 the co-pilot the flight engineer that we 60 00:02:57,780 --> 00:02:56,170 had observed. The following day we 61 00:03:01,090 --> 00:02:57,790 had 62 00:03:03,940 --> 00:03:01,100 met and read in the press that it 63 00:03:06,790 --> 00:03:03,950 was obviously something that was seen 64 00:03:10,330 --> 00:03:06,800 by the population, that is, it was seen 65 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:10,340 by people who He even took photographs 66 00:03:14,559 --> 00:03:12,050 and they were published in the 67 00:03:17,290 --> 00:03:14,569 newspapers and we were certain 68 00:03:19,150 --> 00:03:17,300 in what we had observed that it was 69 00:03:21,670 --> 00:03:19,160 an object that obviously 70 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:21,680 we have actually flown flying object the 71 00:03:26,199 --> 00:03:24,890 UFO so that has been 72 00:03:27,550 --> 00:03:26,209 observed to be discussed by some 73 00:03:31,930 --> 00:03:27,560 colleagues in two or three 74 00:03:34,710 --> 00:03:31,940 additional occasions and that confirmed as explained by 75 00:03:37,770 --> 00:03:34,720 the population that 76 00:03:39,090 --> 00:03:37,780 lives in Callao and that they had taken 77 00:03:41,220 --> 00:03:39,100 photographs and that the following day 78 00:03:44,430 --> 00:03:41,230 they were published in the 79 00:03:47,070 --> 00:03:44,440 delima newspapers and indeed the following day 80 00:03:49,530 --> 00:03:47,080 this was the comment of the press and 81 00:03:51,300 --> 00:03:49,540 Peruvian television 82 00:03:52,770 --> 00:03:51,310 non-volatile flying object Identified have 83 00:03:54,390 --> 00:03:52,780 alarmed the residents of the 84 00:03:55,950 --> 00:03:54,400 Chiquito area in Callao, who 85 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:55,960 remain outside their homes to be able to 86 00:03:59,910 --> 00:03:58,450 witness these ships. Even the 87 00:04:01,800 --> 00:03:59,920 personnel of the Callao maritime terminal 88 00:04:04,050 --> 00:04:01,810 turned on their lights to be able to 89 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:04,060 locate these flying objects, 90 00:04:07,740 --> 00:04:05,890 the Navy ships which 91 00:04:09,090 --> 00:04:07,750 are anchored in the sea of 92 00:04:12,060 --> 00:04:09,100 Callao with their powerful reflectors, they 93 00:04:14,610 --> 00:04:12,070 also try to locate them after 94 00:04:16,410 --> 00:04:14,620 several hours, some silhouettes can be 95 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:16,420 seen, as it should be noted that in this 96 00:04:20,190 --> 00:04:18,370 area of ​​Callao it is not the first time that 97 00:04:21,870 --> 00:04:20,200 these unidentified flying objects have appeared 98 00:04:23,670 --> 00:04:21,880 a few years ago. years ago 99 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:23,680 they appeared during the day very close to the 100 00:04:27,930 --> 00:04:25,450 houses and could be seen by 101 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:27,940 dozens of people we were here in 102 00:04:33,510 --> 00:04:29,650 a grill 103 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:33,520 and suddenly we turned to see and we lived 104 00:04:37,710 --> 00:04:35,370 an unidentified object 105 00:04:39,770 --> 00:04:37,720 from there all the neighbors came by to 106 00:04:45,150 --> 00:04:39,780 pass a voice and began to leave the 107 00:04:48,090 --> 00:04:45,160 CNI and he was out for three hours and 108 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:48,100 hid and every 20 minutes he came 109 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:48,930 out again 110 00:04:56,300 --> 00:04:52,570 carrying turns on that powerful light 111 00:04:59,890 --> 00:04:56,310 that is seen from the boats 112 00:05:02,780 --> 00:04:59,900 and after 11 years there will be another one again 113 00:05:03,940 --> 00:05:02,790 because the one who saw 11 years was 114 00:05:06,980 --> 00:05:03,950 here at the 115 00:05:11,330 --> 00:05:06,990 height of the post but already with its lights 116 00:05:13,090 --> 00:05:11,340 with all the green, orange and red lights 117 00:05:16,270 --> 00:05:14,890 we remembered a presidential plane 118 00:05:19,349 --> 00:05:16,280 with the 119 00:05:24,790 --> 00:05:19,359 architects and his drama 120 00:05:29,620 --> 00:05:26,890 from a radio aid in quito called 121 00:05:35,810 --> 00:05:33,050 that moment a plane 122 00:05:39,020 --> 00:05:35,820 seems to be from avianca He reported that 123 00:05:43,370 --> 00:05:39,030 he had a luminous object on the 124 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:43,380 pitching, the radar commented to me 125 00:05:49,430 --> 00:05:46,650 that if I had this object in sight, to 126 00:05:51,470 --> 00:05:49,440 which I replied that no, I did not see it 127 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:51,480 simply because I was in 128 00:05:56,750 --> 00:05:54,570 instruments, I was not in a visual mode, 129 00:06:00,800 --> 00:05:59,240 Mr. Quito radar in which 130 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:00,810 you can also have some 131 00:06:06,740 --> 00:06:03,210 information I do not remember the 132 00:06:10,190 --> 00:06:06,750 exact date he had the object on his screen 133 00:06:13,100 --> 00:06:10,200 but this object gave no sign of 134 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:13,110 speed or idea or height I am 135 00:06:19,250 --> 00:06:15,890 completely sure that 136 00:06:20,810 --> 00:06:19,260 another civilization exists we had one 137 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:20,820 experience when we came from 138 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:22,710 santiago de chile on a normal 139 00:06:28,220 --> 00:06:24,930 santiago de chile-guayaquil flight with 140 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:28,230 general durán and at that time 141 00:06:36,290 --> 00:06:32,250 captain pozo accompanied us for more or 142 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:36,300 less 15 minutes an object that we 143 00:06:41,510 --> 00:06:38,850 could not identify and it was something 144 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:41,520 extraterrestrial and at the same time Once we were 145 00:06:45,230 --> 00:06:43,410 about 150 miles away from 146 00:06:49,070 --> 00:06:45,240 land because we came in all that is 147 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:49,080 more, we saw in the sea part in the 148 00:06:53,159 --> 00:06:51,510 background a city as we could say 149 00:06:55,439 --> 00:06:53,169 a satellite city 150 00:06:58,290 --> 00:06:55,449 a part where everything looked normal but 151 00:07:01,320 --> 00:06:58,300 inside the sea at depth from the sea 152 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:01,330 we were more or less at 33,000 153 00:07:05,879 --> 00:07:03,810 feet above sea level and it was normally possible to observe 154 00:07:08,399 --> 00:07:05,889 that this was a city that 155 00:07:10,830 --> 00:07:08,409 existed and we were able to observe what 156 00:07:14,189 --> 00:07:10,840 buildings were there at 157 00:07:16,860 --> 00:07:14,199 night at dawn and more or less lights, 158 00:07:18,839 --> 00:07:16,870 some voices under the water some 159 00:07:20,070 --> 00:07:18,849 clear lights that gave the identification as 160 00:07:21,959 --> 00:07:20,080 if it was a city down there 161 00:07:23,670 --> 00:07:21,969 definitely working the water 162 00:07:25,739 --> 00:07:23,680 because we were 150 miles 163 00:07:27,570 --> 00:07:25,749 away from what the earth in the part 164 00:07:31,019 --> 00:07:27,580 that we came to fly was in the 165 00:07:31,850 --> 00:07:31,029 year of 1982 specifically in the month of 166 00:07:34,619 --> 00:07:31,860 November 167 00:07:36,860 --> 00:07:34,629 and I fly a caravelle plane from Quito 168 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:36,870 to Manta 169 00:07:41,499 --> 00:07:39,930 with my colleagues who unfortunately 170 00:07:43,210 --> 00:07:41,509 are not with us 171 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:43,220 and 172 00:07:50,300 --> 00:07:47,250 I remember that approximately 15 or 173 00:07:53,279 --> 00:07:50,310 20 miles from Manta we were suddenly 174 00:07:53,279 --> 00:07:55,320 surprised to use a circular 175 00:08:03,330 --> 00:08:01,679 spherical object I can't tell you how to describe it theoretical prodigies I 176 00:08:07,279 --> 00:08:03,340 tell you that initially we thought it 177 00:08:10,409 --> 00:08:07,289 was a balloon or a 178 00:08:12,029 --> 00:08:10,419 meteorological probe and the 179 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:12,039 nearest cancer mean that we are obviously looking at it 180 00:08:15,559 --> 00:08:14,050 more trying to appreciate the best not 181 00:08:19,230 --> 00:08:15,569 what it was about 182 00:08:22,170 --> 00:08:19,240 apparently I tell you that it was 183 00:08:23,909 --> 00:08:22,180 daytime excellent visibility, that 184 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:23,919 is, there is no doubt that 185 00:08:29,029 --> 00:08:26,770 the matter was really easily identifiable 186 00:08:31,439 --> 00:08:29,039 if I tell you that contrary to what is 187 00:08:33,540 --> 00:08:31,449 commonly commented on these things, I 188 00:08:35,610 --> 00:08:33,550 know what shape it marks, this was 189 00:08:37,260 --> 00:08:35,620 totally spherical and as I told you 190 00:08:39,389 --> 00:08:37,270 before, apparently it rotated on its 191 00:08:41,370 --> 00:08:39,399 Its own axis was static in the place, it did 192 00:08:43,370 --> 00:08:41,380 not move and obviously we were 193 00:08:46,070 --> 00:08:43,380 getting closer to it, 194 00:08:48,590 --> 00:08:46,080 but here in the important and curious thing that 195 00:08:51,410 --> 00:08:48,600 when we were observing it, 196 00:08:51,410 --> 00:08:56,590 it suddenly moved at an unquantifiable speed 197 00:09:01,030 --> 00:08:59,259 and obviously much stranger still 198 00:09:02,499 --> 00:09:01,040 because it was partly at a standstill through 199 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:02,509 the zero point and it moves at an 200 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:04,850 incredible speed and there we really convinced ourselves 201 00:09:09,100 --> 00:09:06,290 that it was not something that 202 00:09:11,259 --> 00:09:09,110 was identifiable, at least for 203 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:11,269 us, no, we came from a 204 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:14,410 flight that came from Gualaquiza to 205 00:09:19,180 --> 00:09:15,970 Paraquito, 206 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:19,190 we had with some passengers, we checked 207 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:21,050 the notification point now and we 208 00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:22,730 joined the section with the wind for 209 00:09:30,430 --> 00:09:26,690 runway 17 we live in front a 210 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:30,440 fairly fast light more or less it will be like the 211 00:09:36,250 --> 00:09:32,930 light of a 7 27 212 00:09:40,090 --> 00:09:36,260 it could be that size it could be less than it 213 00:09:40,889 --> 00:09:40,100 was flying at the height of the pichincha from south 214 00:09:43,690 --> 00:09:40,899 to north 215 00:09:45,780 --> 00:09:43,700 we notified to the radar the radar 216 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:45,790 did not have the trace 217 00:09:50,130 --> 00:09:48,490 and we continued to see it we thought 218 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:50,140 that it was an airplane that was in 219 00:09:53,990 --> 00:09:51,970 overflight from guayaquil to panama or 220 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:54,000 guayaquil 221 00:09:59,420 --> 00:09:56,330 or lima from the south to the north 222 00:10:01,250 --> 00:09:59,430 we continued on the trajectory 223 00:10:02,750 --> 00:10:01,260 we had another airplane that was an 224 00:10:06,230 --> 00:10:02,760 experience being that was entering from the 225 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:06,240 direct north for runway 17 and he 226 00:10:09,530 --> 00:10:08,010 also notified the same thing we 227 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:09,540 began to make the approach 228 00:10:14,180 --> 00:10:11,850 for runway 17 and the light was already much 229 00:10:17,450 --> 00:10:14,190 further on much more much 230 00:10:20,090 --> 00:10:17,460 further on while touching wheels the 231 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:20,100 control told us that the track it had been 232 00:10:24,260 --> 00:10:22,170 seen by the radar that has a 233 00:10:27,530 --> 00:10:24,270 fairly high speed so it 234 00:10:30,970 --> 00:10:27,540 can't be any plane I realized that 235 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:30,980 in the distance there was a plane that was approaching us 236 00:10:37,700 --> 00:10:35,010 for me it was a plane by silhouette 237 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:37,710 but the time that I did the maneuver 238 00:10:42,590 --> 00:10:40,770 to avoid just our truck 239 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:42,600 also in the first instance I was surprised 240 00:10:46,590 --> 00:10:44,610 that the control had not warned me of 241 00:10:50,689 --> 00:10:46,600 traffic in the area 242 00:10:54,030 --> 00:10:50,699 at all then when I made the maneuver 243 00:10:58,379 --> 00:10:54,040 immediately I saw that it began to disappear 244 00:11:01,550 --> 00:10:58,389 quickly on the horizon and 245 00:11:03,930 --> 00:11:01,560 we were coming at 19 thousand feet of altitude and 246 00:11:06,090 --> 00:11:03,940 we began to descending more or less from 247 00:11:09,090 --> 00:11:06,100 the tejar position 248 00:11:11,639 --> 00:11:09,100 we were on a fairly clear night in 249 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:11,649 conditions since they were visual you could 250 00:11:16,290 --> 00:11:13,930 say but it was already quarter to seven it 251 00:11:17,940 --> 00:11:16,300 was quite dark but it was a 252 00:11:21,030 --> 00:11:17,950 clear night 253 00:11:25,020 --> 00:11:21,040 more or less from the height of pass 8a 254 00:11:26,790 --> 00:11:25,030 around we already had 17,000 feet and 255 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:26,800 radar control had authorized us to 256 00:11:32,610 --> 00:11:30,370 descend in visual conditions and 257 00:11:34,620 --> 00:11:32,620 make a visual descent to land 258 00:11:37,290 --> 00:11:34,630 on runway 17 to the north of the 259 00:11:39,450 --> 00:11:37,300 city due to windy conditions and 260 00:11:41,370 --> 00:11:39,460 something on the left side caught my attention 261 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:41,380 at the height of Pichincha 262 00:11:46,050 --> 00:11:44,050 About the Pichincha, more or less, I told 263 00:11:47,670 --> 00:11:46,060 the captain of Excel and the captain of 264 00:11:50,970 --> 00:11:47,680 Panchana, who was in the back, I 265 00:11:53,639 --> 00:11:50,980 told them, look at that light. They saw the 266 00:11:57,389 --> 00:11:55,290 at first. 267 00:11:59,460 --> 00:11:57,399 I think it was a UFO. We 268 00:12:02,400 --> 00:11:59,470 weren't sure, but the only 269 00:12:04,910 --> 00:12:02,410 way and The easiest way to clear up the doubt 270 00:12:07,109 --> 00:12:04,920 was to ask radar control, 271 00:12:08,639 --> 00:12:07,119 so I took the radio, give me 272 00:12:10,319 --> 00:12:08,649 radar control now, and soon if 273 00:12:13,230 --> 00:12:10,329 radar control had an aircraft 274 00:12:15,660 --> 00:12:13,240 that was in the Pichincha sector, 275 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:15,670 they saw that they had no negative 276 00:12:19,650 --> 00:12:17,170 contact that they did not know of any 277 00:12:21,929 --> 00:12:19,660 aircraft that is in that sector so 278 00:12:24,509 --> 00:12:21,939 I told the radar man that I 279 00:12:27,090 --> 00:12:24,519 had him in sight that it was a light because 280 00:12:29,850 --> 00:12:27,100 I realized that they were moving, let's say, 281 00:12:31,290 --> 00:12:29,860 it was because in the Pichincha you can 282 00:12:34,410 --> 00:12:31,300 say that here there is the pichincha and here 283 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:34,420 is another hill the bus and the ruco 284 00:12:39,090 --> 00:12:36,730 maybe I don't know the exact names but I 285 00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:39,100 saw the light from behind two at a time when I